Ideal Standard running into toilet Bowl cistern-fill-valve-sv81767 ?

[Stants]

Hi I have an issue ( maybe 2 ) the toilet keeps running into bowl through the internal over flow also its running out the top by the arm on the left ( see pic ) if you lift the arm up it stops coming out of it but continues to trickle into the bowl below I've had a look online and its suggested you change some washers / diaprams due to limescale build up and pitting but from what I've read it could be a fault in both parts in the pic ? another option would to replace all the internal parts ?? I'm a diy plumber fairly confident I could tackle either option given some grateful advice
Thanks

 

[Harvest Fields]

Probably needs a new inlet valve.

 

[Stants]

Probable needs a new inlet valve.

Ah Ok but the issue with the water running into the bowl would that be the flush valve washer ?

 

[Harvest Fields]

Ah Ok but the issue with the water running into the bowl would that be the flush valve washer ?

Not if the inlet valve is not shutting off correctly.

 

[Stants]

Not if the inlet valve is not shutting off correctly.

Ah ok thankyou

 

[Harvest Fields]

No worries

 

[Stants]

No worries

just been looking online and saw a inlet valve being replaced by just removing the top part would you know if the ideal standard is like this ? seen some pics and says its an sv8 1767

 

[Harvest Fields]

You cannot do that in yours but you could try the washer in the top part first if you want to.

 

[Welder]

Personally, as the Ideal Standard you have are pretty poor quality, I'd replace the fill valve with a make more easily serviced in future. You'll aslo find the flush valve diaphragm shrinks when immersed in water. No I haven't made that up. When that begins to leak bin it for something 19th century

 

[Stants]

You cannot do that in yours but you could try the washer in the top part first if you want to.

I think / agree replacing for longevity is best but as a possible quick fix to replace the washer is it under the threaded part on the top ( just under the arm ) ?

 

[Harvest Fields]

Yes mate. Take the old one to a merchants and match it up.

 

[Stants]

Personally, as the Ideal Standard you have are pretty poor quality, I'd replace the fill valve with a make more easily serviced in future. You'll aslo find the flush valve diaphragm shrinks when immersed in water. No I haven't made that up. When that begins to leak bin it for something 19th century

Oh ok so if I replace both any ideas which ones to buy and would they fit the existing cistern ?

 

[Harvest Fields]

Do you have another toilet in the house? If so take the old ones with you to the local plumb Centre (Wolseley) or City Plumbing andbget there recommended replacements. Or talk to a plumber on the counter when there.

 

[Stants]

Yes mate. Take the old one to a merchants and match it up.

Cheers

 

[Stants]

Do you have another toilet in the house? If so take the old ones with you to the local plumb Centre (Wolseley) or City Plumbing andbget there recommended replacements. Or talk to a plumber on the counter when there.

Makes sense thanks

 

[sammathias]

Armitage Shanks / Ideal Standard Dual Flush Valve Diaphragm Seal & Clip SV01967 | eBay

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Armitage-S...ocphy=9045262&hvtargid=pla-423224571577&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Profession...dley+valve&dpPl=1&dpID=41nqptZEm9L&ref=plSrch

 

[Welder]

Armitage Shanks / Ideal Standard Dual Flush Valve Diaphragm Seal & Clip SV01967 | eBay

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Armitage-S...ocphy=9045262&hvtargid=pla-423224571577&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Profession...dley+valve&dpPl=1&dpID=41nqptZEm9L&ref=plSrch

Not saying you cannot buy them. Am saying DO NOT buy them as poor and overpriced.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Not saying you cannot buy them. Am saying DO NOT buy them as poor and overpriced.

Not sure that I charge my customers them prices

 

[sammathias]

Dudley hydroflo I've fitted 100s and never had a problem? As for the Syphon, only really get problems with the neumatic type... That type never seem to fail...apart from the washer...

 

[sammathias]

Probably get them alot cheaper...but I couldn't be bothered to surf the web for the best prices like.

 

[Stants]

Armitage Shanks / Ideal Standard Dual Flush Valve Diaphragm Seal & Clip SV01967 | eBay

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Armitage-S...ocphy=9045262&hvtargid=pla-423224571577&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Profession...dley+valve&dpPl=1&dpID=41nqptZEm9L&ref=plSrch

Armitage Shanks / Ideal Standard Dual Flush Valve Diaphragm Seal & Clip SV01967 | eBay

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Armitage-S...ocphy=9045262&hvtargid=pla-423224571577&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Profession...dley+valve&dpPl=1&dpID=41nqptZEm9L&ref=plSrch

Hi thanks for that I may attempt a quick fix as I have 2 toilets to do ( same ) I've been told ( Earlier in thread ) to replace the washer at the top of the fill valve .The washer you show in your link that's for the flush valve yeah ? Ive seen some clips of others Flush Valves and they twist off to gain access is this the same ? ( just to add I totally agree with renewing the innards but I could do without dismantling two toilets at the mo although I know I may have too :-(….. )

Cheers

 

[Stants]

Hi thanks for that I may attempt a quick fix as I have 2 toilets to do ( same ) I've been told ( Earlier in thread ) to replace the washer at the top of the fill valve .The washer you show in your link that's for the flush valve yeah ? Ive seen some clips of others Flush Valves and they twist off to gain access is this the same ? ( just to add I totally agree with renewing the innards but I could do without dismantling two toilets at the mo although I know I may have too :-( )

Cheers

 

[Stants]

Not saying you cannot buy them. Am saying DO NOT buy them as poor and overpriced.

Hi Dave just posted a new thread but pretty sure I may need to replace innards would you be willing to recommend which new to use that are easier to service ?

 

[sammathias]

That Syphon I linked you is a straight swap. Click old one out 1/4 turn then click new one back into existing base. No need to dismantle toilet.

 

[sammathias]

Ideal Standard Replacement Pneumatic Diaphragm for Pneumatic valves SV70367

Think that washers the replacement for that fill valve. Someone may correct me.

 

[CharlieF1997]

With these flush valves you can remove them just by twisting them at the body, water will run down the bowl but check the bottom rubber that’s most likely the cause if not it’s the diaphragm scaled up. Changed 3 about a month ago